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Your recent editing history at Dan Wagner shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Hayman30 (talk) 12:35, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

I would like to request I be unblocked. My edits to the Dan Wagner page are valid edits which I posted on the talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dan_Wagner#Venda on 3/7/17 for other editors to discuss. I've also requested other editors opinions and tried dispute resolution over the intro. As you can see, no other editor engaged with the points raised before the changes were made to the article. The changes are sourced and verified. When the other two ip users and Techtrek reverted the changes, no of them engaged on the talk page to explain their objections and removed the valid sourced points. 5.226.137.179 (talk) 17:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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You are blocked for edit warring, and you clearly were edit warring. In fact, the article had only very recently been unprotected after I had to stop you from edit warring before. Huon (talk) 18:05, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

In fairness I did desist from making changes last time and said as much on the talk page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dan_Wagner#Edits_26th_June_2017. I also requested admin help and page protection the first time round. What am I supposed to do when I try to engage editors on the talk page about changes, giving plenty of time to discuss the proposals but they refuse to engage until after the change has been applied? Also, it appears my the changes were being reverted by Techtrek sock accounts. 5.226.137.179 (talk) 18:16, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

  • the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
  • the block is no longer necessary because you
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    2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
    3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Yamla (talk) 12:06, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

See WP:Dispute resolution. Huon (talk) 18:58, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I accept that. I tried most avenues on there but should have disengaged as I did last time. I tried discussion regarding the Venda points. No one raised any issues until I made the change. I didn't rollout the changes to the intro (other than to remove a source that had no relation to a quote) and had raised a resolution request which we were part way through. I did raise a 3OR request for the Venda change but it was deleted as it was believed this was was of the dispute resolution request on the intro. I'll step back from the article but I do ask that a third party review the article as the points of contention still stand. Whenever a senior editor makes changes those changes are accepted by all involved (until the next bit of publicity comes out on the subject then this start all over again). Regardless, thank you for considering my request. 5.226.137.179 (talk) 19:09, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Worth noting one of the disputed changes, 'Netsuite a division of Oracle Corporation', https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dan_Wagner&oldid=789452342, appears to have been taken from the bio of the subject on their new venture website, https://www.rezolve.com/media-houses-brand-owners-and-retailers/about-us/who-are-we.php, "the company was sold in 2014 to NetSuite a subsidiary of Oracle Corporation". That would explain the conflation I discussed multiple times.5.226.137.179 (talk) 19:09, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]